Rules for exploding barbed wire deathmatch at AEW Revolution set

[Big Red Machine]

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By Bryan Rose | @br26 | Mar 5, 2021 7:55 pm

Kenny Omega has announced the rules of the exploding barbed wire deathmatch for the AEW World title that will happen this Sunday at Revolution.

In a tweet, Omega explained the rules. Three sides of the ring ropes will be covered in barbed wire. Contact with the barbed wire will trigger explosives on the corresponding side that is hit. On the floor, there will be what Omega calls “triple hell”: three zones on the floor that are wired with explosives.

There will also be a thirty minute countdown timer. At the end of the timer, all of the explosives in and around the ring will detonate.

Omega made the match after acceptiing Moxley's challenge. This will be the third match in their series, with Moxley defeating Omega in an unsanctioned lights out match at Full Gear 2019. Omega then won the match at Winter is Coming in December with the help of Don Callis.

AEW Revolution will take place this Sunday.

[Big Red Machine]

I don't understand why I as a fan am supposed to want to see matches where the main gimmick is designed to kill or maim someone.

[cero2k]

I don't understand why I as a fan am supposed to want to see matches where the main gimmick is designed to kill or maim someone.

you answered your own question. Violence!

[Big Red Machine]

I don't understand why I as a fan am supposed to want to see matches where the main gimmick is designed to kill or maim someone.

you answered your own question. Violence!

But there is a difference between light tubes (blood! See who is tougher!) and "if you step on the wrong part of the ring, you might get your legs blown off." In some ways, it's just too much luck.

[XIV]

Oh look, another world title match with stupid bullshit rules that don’t fit the feud.

You know what would have made sense in this feud? A cage to keep Good Brothers and Callis out seeing as we all know how Moxley lost the title.

But no, we have to have this absolutely unecessary match. They’re hardly Funk and Foley and this isn’t Japan.

I’d like a World Title match without a some kind of gimmick.

[Big Red Machine]

Oh look, another world title match with stupid bullshit rules that don’t fit the feud.

You know what would have made sense in this feud? A cage to keep Good Brothers and Callis out seeing as we all know how Moxley lost the title.
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And the cage also ostensibly keeps weapons out, so Moxley would have to wrestle "Omega's" match and wouldn't have access to plunder.

[XIV]

Oh look, another world title match with stupid bullshit rules that don’t fit the feud.

You know what would have made sense in this feud? A cage to keep Good Brothers and Callis out seeing as we all know how Moxley lost the title.
]

And the cage also ostensibly keeps weapons out, so Moxley would have to wrestle "Omega's" match and wouldn't have access to plunder.

Which within the confines of what Omega wants would have made more sense.

[Big Red Machine]

Oh look, another world title match with stupid bullshit rules that don’t fit the feud.

You know what would have made sense in this feud? A cage to keep Good Brothers and Callis out seeing as we all know how Moxley lost the title.
]

And the cage also ostensibly keeps weapons out, so Moxley would have to wrestle "Omega's" match and wouldn't have access to plunder.

Which within the confines of what Omega wants would have made more sense.

Exactly.

[cero2k]

wtf are you guys even talking about, the whole story was that Omega wanted to beat Mox in Mox's match, he already beat him in Omega's match

[Big Red Machine]

wtf are you guys even talking about, the whole story was that Omega wanted to beat Mox in Mox's match, he already beat him in Omega's match

That's not the story the announcers have been selling.

[cero2k]

wtf are you guys even talking about, the whole story was that Omega wanted to beat Mox in Mox's match, he already beat him in Omega's match

That's not the story the announcers have been selling.

it's the story that the wrestlers are selling you. it was all over Omega's promos

[Big Red Machine]

wtf are you guys even talking about, the whole story was that Omega wanted to beat Mox in Mox's match, he already beat him in Omega's match

That's not the story the announcers have been selling.

it's the story that the wrestlers are selling you. it was all over Omega's promos

Then there is a problematic disconnect.

[XIV]

That's not the story the announcers have been selling.

it's the story that the wrestlers are selling you. it was all over Omega's promos

Then there is a problematic disconnect.

Both myself and BRM have clearly missed where this was supposed to be the point which leads to them possibly not making it clear enough.

If I missed it, I missed it. But then the issue is that Jon Moxley isn’t exactly synonymous with exploding barbed wire death matches. So it’s not beating him at “Moxley’s match”. It’s beating him in a match where he and his mates had built every element of it and Moxley just participated.

[Big Red Machine]

it's the story that the wrestlers are selling you. it was all over Omega's promos

Then there is a problematic disconnect.

Both myself and BRM have clearly missed where this was supposed to be the point which leads to them possibly not making it clear enough.

If I missed it, I missed it. But then the issue is that Jon Moxley isn’t exactly synonymous with exploding barbed wire death matches. So it’s not beating him at “Moxley’s match”. It’s beating him in a match where he and his mates had built every element of it and Moxley just participated.

This. Moxley is a CZW guy. That's thumbtack s and light tubes and jumping off of things, not FMW/Big Japan-style explosions and piranhas and whatever. This felt more like "Let's do an Onita tribute" than it did "Kenny wrestling Moxley's match."

[cero2k]

ha, that's an incredible way to bend the stipulation to back up your arguments. It's a [something someting] Deathmatch, so it's A DEATHMATCH. Mox is a deathmatch wrestler. An exploding barbed wire deathmatch will forever be more a Mox match, than an Omega match.

You guys that argue that AEW doesn't explain things, are ok thinking it was an 'Onita tribute' when he only showed up last minute in the go home show.

[Big Red Machine]

ha, that's an incredible way to bend the stipulation to back up your arguments. It's a [something someting] Deathmatch, so it's A DEATHMATCH. Mox is a deathmatch wrestler. An exploding barbed wire deathmatch will forever be more a Mox match, than an Omega match.

You guys that argue that AEW doesn't explain things, are ok thinking it was an 'Onita tribute' when he only showed up last minute in the go home show.

No one is saying that it isn't "more" Moxley's match than Omega's, but it doesn't feel like a Moxley match. It feels like the kind of thing he (out of kayfabe) would want to do. It doesn't feel like something he has some sort of track record with, the way that a casket match because Taker's match or TLC became "Edge's" match before they turned it into a PPV.

No one is saying that the story was that it was an Onita tribute match. I said it felt like the idea was "let's do an Onita tribute match."
To clarify, I mean that that was where it felt like the idea to do this match came from. It felt like the idea originated in something that a guy who was probably an FMW fan and a guy who has tremendous respect for Japanese history thought would be a cool thing to do, and were now in a promotion that would allow them to do it.
That's all out of kayfabe. The promotion's job is to then to create a storyline that gets to that match in a way that feels real. What this felt like was something that was booked because someone thought it'd be cool. That disconnect is the result of poor storytelling. Your explanation makes perfect sense. The problem with it is that the announcers have been saying something totally different.

[cero2k]

No one is saying that it isn't "more" Moxley's match than Omega's, but it doesn't feel like a Moxley match. It feels like the kind of thing he (out of kayfabe) would want to do. It doesn't feel like something he has some sort of track record with, the way that a casket match because Taker's match or TLC became "Edge's" match before they turned it into a PPV.

No one is saying that the story was that it was an Onita tribute match. I said it felt like the idea was "let's do an Onita tribute match."
To clarify, I mean that that was where it felt like the idea to do this match came from. It felt like the idea originated in something that a guy who was probably an FMW fan and a guy who has tremendous respect for Japanese history thought would be a cool thing to do, and were now in a promotion that would allow them to do it.
That's all out of kayfabe. The promotion's job is to then to create a storyline that gets to that match in a way that feels real. What this felt like was something that was booked because someone thought it'd be cool. That disconnect is the result of poor storytelling. Your explanation makes perfect sense. The problem with it is that the announcers have been saying something totally different.

Just the fact that it's a deathmatch makes it a Moxley match. No one but you is gonna nitpick the specifics of a certain brand of deathmatch to decide whether it fits a deathmatch wrestler. The average fan of AEW has never seen a Moxley deathmatch, or a deathmatch at all, they just know he 'used to be a deathmatch guy'.

the story has been there in kayfabe, Omega wanted to beat Mox in his own match. Omega is trying to show that he's the best in the world by collecting titles and showing that he is the best in every type of match. If the announcers have told you something different, (1) i'm not surprised, JR is senile and useless and Schiavone is there for the lols, (2) it's not really an excuse to not pay attention to what the actual wrestlers are telling you in their promos and videos.

[Big Red Machine]

No one is saying that it isn't "more" Moxley's match than Omega's, but it doesn't feel like a Moxley match. It feels like the kind of thing he (out of kayfabe) would want to do. It doesn't feel like something he has some sort of track record with, the way that a casket match because Taker's match or TLC became "Edge's" match before they turned it into a PPV.

No one is saying that the story was that it was an Onita tribute match. I said it felt like the idea was "let's do an Onita tribute match."
To clarify, I mean that that was where it felt like the idea to do this match came from. It felt like the idea originated in something that a guy who was probably an FMW fan and a guy who has tremendous respect for Japanese history thought would be a cool thing to do, and were now in a promotion that would allow them to do it.
That's all out of kayfabe. The promotion's job is to then to create a storyline that gets to that match in a way that feels real. What this felt like was something that was booked because someone thought it'd be cool. That disconnect is the result of poor storytelling. Your explanation makes perfect sense. The problem with it is that the announcers have been saying something totally different.

Just the fact that it's a deathmatch makes it a Moxley match. No one but you is gonna nitpick the specifics of a certain brand of deathmatch to decide whether it fits a deathmatch wrestler. The average fan of AEW has never seen a Moxley deathmatch, or a deathmatch at all, they just know he 'used to be a deathmatch guy'.

the story has been there in kayfabe, Omega wanted to beat Mox in his own match. Omega is trying to show that he's the best in the world by collecting titles and showing that he is the best in every type of match. If the announcers have told you something different, (1) i'm not surprised, JR is senile and useless and Schiavone is there for the lols, (2) it's not really an excuse to not pay attention to what the actual wrestlers are telling you in their promos and videos.

1. Two other people on this forum had the same reaction as me, so it's clearly not just nit-pickers like me.

2. They really haven't pushed that with Omega on TV at all. He's mostly just been goofing around with Callis or conflicted about the Bucks. The only place he has made much of an effort to collect any other sort of title seems to be Impact. He hasn't, for example, talked smack about Darby Allin or whoever the NWA World Heavyweight Champion is, and he has made no mention of wanting to beat people in their own matches. What he said with Moxley was that he was going to give Moxley a match that he knew Moxley wouldn't turn down.

3. The focus, if anything, has been "hahahaha we're going to exterminate Moxley." Nothing about beating him in his own match to prove superiority.

4. A senile announcer who is giving fans the wrong stories should be removed from TV ASAP. If that's the case, then AEW are completely negligent for not doing so.