NJPW New Year's Dash results: The return of Suzuki-gun

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NJPW New Year's Dash results: The return of Suzuki-gun

Post by cero2k » Jan 5th, '17, 12:15

Ricochet, Kyle O’Reilly & David Finlay defeated Tiger Mask, Jushin Thunder Liger & Henare

Yujiro Takahashi & Hangman Page defeated Yoshitatsu & Billy Gunn

YOSHI-HASHI & Roppongi Vice defeated The Young Bucks & Adam Cole

Team 2000 (Scott Norton, Hiro Saito, Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima & Cheeseburger) defeated Bullet Club (Kenny Omega, Tama Tonga, Tanga Loa, Bad Luck Fale & Bone Soldier)

Michael Elgin & KUSHIDA defeated Tetsuya Naito & Hiromu Takahashi

Katsuyori Shibata, Juice Robinson, Tomoaki Honma, Togi Makabe & Yuji Nagata defeated Kazuchika Okada, Hirooki Goto, Toru Yano, Tomohiro Ishii & Will Ospreay

Shibata and Ospreay started things off. Ospreay motioned that he wanted the RPW British Heavyweight Championship. He and Shibata had a nice early exchange. It ended up becoming a brawl on the outside with Ishii taking Makabe and throwing him into a sign in the crowd. All good, solid action throughout. It continues to be clear that Robinson has improved tons since joining New Japan. Everyone came in and were trading spots. Goto and Robinson went at it. Goto pelted him with clotheslines but Robinson responded with one of his own. Shibata flew in and hit the penalty kick. Robinson hit the unprettier and pinned Goto in a big upset.

Juice Robinson was holding the NEVER title, making clear he was challenging next when all of a sudden, Suzuki-gun ran in for the big return and started to clear house on Chaos. Davey Boy Smith Jr, Lance Archer, Desperado, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, Taichi, Takashi Iizuka & Taka Michinoku all came in and destroyed whoever was in their path. Taichi and Taka Michinoku laid out Roppongi Vice and Killer Elite Squad laid out Yano. Okada came in and tried to clear house, but the boss himself Minoru Suzuki came in and laid him out with the Gotch piledriver. Suzuki said he wants to rule this ring again and all the belts will be theirs. This got really great heat.


Manabu Nakanishi, Hiroshi Tanahashi & Ryusuke Taguchi defeated EVIL, SANADA & BUSHI for the NEVER Six-Man tag titles
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Re: NJPW New Year's Dash results: The return of Suzuki-gun

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cero2k wrote: Manabu Nakanishi, Hiroshi Tanahashi & Ryusuke Taguchi defeated EVIL, SANADA & BUSHI for the NEVER Six-Man tag titles
:-w seriously, fuck Gedo sometimes...
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Re: NJPW New Year's Dash results: The return of Suzuki-gun

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cero2k wrote:
cero2k wrote: Manabu Nakanishi, Hiroshi Tanahashi & Ryusuke Taguchi defeated EVIL, SANADA & BUSHI for the NEVER Six-Man tag titles
:-w seriously, fuck Gedo sometimes...
Gedo is probably the most overrated booker of the modern era. His only trick is "protect a guy," and you could probably argue that Delirious has protected Jay Briscoe better than Gedo has protected Okada or Tanahashi. Any other attempt he has had at a "story" has been terrible, between these titles, the cluster-fuckery of both tag divisions, the Tenzan thing in the G1, the general booking of Goto... He's a guy who just lucks on to having amazing talents and gets lucky that the fans decide to latch onto things like Honma's dumb headbutt gimmick, the Young Bucks getting Bullet Club over, or Ishii and Shibata deciding not to sell.
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Re: NJPW New Year's Dash results: The return of Suzuki-gun

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Big Red Machine wrote: Gedo is probably the most overrated booker of the modern era. His only trick is "protect a guy," and you could probably argue that Delirious has protected Jay Briscoe better than Gedo has protected Okada or Tanahashi. Any other attempt he has had at a "story" has been terrible, between these titles, the cluster-fuckery of both tag divisions, the Tenzan thing in the G1, the general booking of Goto...
You can easily tell that his focus is on building guys for the 4 main singles titles, the clusterfuck of the tag divisions is IMO just a huge lack of depth in the roster and not wanting to let people just take a back seat, you can tell that he likes to throw a bone to some people now and then to keep them 'relevant', but the focus is just not there to push them. I really don't like how he books the tag divisions, but sometimes i don't blame him when you only have 2-3 teams to move around and the rest are old timer teams or not signed to the promotion.
Big Red Machine wrote: He's a guy who just lucks on to having amazing talents and gets lucky that the fans decide to latch onto things like Honma's dumb headbutt gimmick, the Young Bucks getting Bullet Club over, or Ishii and Shibata deciding not to sell.
He has amazing talent, but hes pretty good at booking that talent, i mean, look at WWE and ROH and AAA and 15 yrs of TNA, amazing talent, but it doesn't matter if you have a terrible booker.
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cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: Gedo is probably the most overrated booker of the modern era. His only trick is "protect a guy," and you could probably argue that Delirious has protected Jay Briscoe better than Gedo has protected Okada or Tanahashi. Any other attempt he has had at a "story" has been terrible, between these titles, the cluster-fuckery of both tag divisions, the Tenzan thing in the G1, the general booking of Goto...
You can easily tell that his focus is on building guys for the 4 main singles titles, the clusterfuck of the tag divisions is IMO just a huge lack of depth in the roster and not wanting to let people just take a back seat, you can tell that he likes to throw a bone to some people now and then to keep them 'relevant', but the focus is just not there to push them. I really don't like how he books the tag divisions, but sometimes i don't blame him when you only have 2-3 teams to move around and the rest are old timer teams or not signed to the promotion.
Not top four. Just the top two, and then he only protects KUSHIDA for the Jr. Title. He hasn't done a darn thing with the NEVER Title, and his booking with the Jr. Title is like his booking patternf ro the two top titles except that the guys he tries to build up as challengers aren't given the spotlight the way the Heavyweights are.
cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: He's a guy who just lucks on to having amazing talents and gets lucky that the fans decide to latch onto things like Honma's dumb headbutt gimmick, the Young Bucks getting Bullet Club over, or Ishii and Shibata deciding not to sell.
He has amazing talent, but hes pretty good at booking that talent, i mean, look at WWE and ROH and AAA and 15 yrs of TNA, amazing talent, but it doesn't matter if you have a terrible booker.
I think Japan is a bit different because of the lack of gimmickry. No one in Japan (outside of the few gimmick promotions) winds up with a "bad" the gimmick the way you'll see in North America, so Gedo rarely has the chance to do anything wrong. Combine that with simplistic booking focused on only on the singles heavyweight division and you're not getting criticized for making mistakes, so all there is is praise, which makes that praise look better than it actually is because there is no negative to balance it out. and 60/100 positive and a 0/100 negative is a score of 60/100, but a 75/100 positive and a 20/100 negative is 55/100, even though your good stuff is actually better than the 60/100 (if that makes any sense).
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