Anybody watching impact!? (11/10/12)

[e-moose]

11/10 impact! should have started with Roode calling out Storm to sincerely apologize for taking the short cut he did, and offering Storm a title shot that night, and trying to patch it up. Then they could have had Storm think long and hard about it and then shake the man's hand. Then in the title match at the end of the broadcast, they could have had a nice long and fair and respectful match, that would end with Storm taking an opportunity and smashing Roode over the head with a bottle and winning the title back! Then this week (11/17), the two could have had another chat in the middle of the ring with Storm saying "Look man, I really don't like how this title has come between us but I wanna offer you another shot at it." and Roode agreeing that it's not good all that has transpired and refusing the match. Then James Storm calls out Sting to the ring and actually surrenders the title to Sting, basically vacating the championship. This sets up Sting to do a really long speech about the TNA championship and competitiveness and bla bla bla. Then Sting uses his authority to force the two of them to wrestle each other for the title at the next PPV, but until that time, the title is vacant. Somebody else can write it from here. LOL[/color]

I like the first part of that lol. But I like Bobby Roode as a heel. I just hate the "Selfish Generation" thing and that they never really addressed the emotional turmoil Roode went through when he smashed Storm in the head with a bottle. They really should have built on Roode hating himself for doing that, but eventually coming to grips with it and actually accepting and embracing what he did because it gave him the opportunity to win the title. THEN they should battle it out respectfully and eventually fight for a vacated title and so on and so forth.

Iunno, they just didn't really do this as well as they could have.

You say they really should have built on Roode hating himself for doing that. My story totally fulfills that, and even has Storm exacting some sort of revenge for it, and then a cliff hanger would have been left there, making the audience wonder if the team can work it out or even the possibility of Storm turning heel. Then they get another PPV title match set up. As the PPV gets closer, it could be shown in various ways that the two are on good terms but there's some sort of tension and mistrust. Hell my story could continue with the two of them actually doing a tag match on impact! as Beer Money, going into at acting like they're friends, but in the actual match show them always keeping an eye on each other, show the lack of trust.

I agree with you that Roode is a good heel, and in the end of my story, that's how it should end up, but in a very drawn out progression. It's what I had in mind but just haven't written the thing up to that point. Anybody else care to take over? LOL

[KILLdozer]

Well everyone says he should show feelings of remorse and feel bad and guilty,,,Ive noticed that as the high point of this discussion..Well I completely disagree..In a way he should care about screwing "his friend" but the fact is he doesnt..He's a heel who doesnt give a shit,,He just doesnt care that he had to rob his friend..No remorse no regrets just fuck em basically...the way I see it there's no remorse to be shown

[Rabid619]

Well everyone says he should show feelings of remorse and feel bad and guilty,,,Ive noticed that as the high point of this discussion..Well I completely disagree..In a way he should care about screwing "his friend" but the fact is he doesnt..He's a heel who doesnt give a s**t,,He just doesnt care that he had to rob his friend..No remorse no regrets just f**k em basically...the way I see it there's no remorse to be shown

But it would make more sense if he showed a bit more remorse when he turned heel. He was built up as a big time babyface for months, its practically all for not when you turn him into the heel he is. BRM said it perfectly in his latest Impact review, it's like someone put Austin Aries brain into Roode's head.

[Big Red Machine]

Well everyone says he should show feelings of remorse and feel bad and guilty,,,Ive noticed that as the high point of this discussion..Well I completely disagree..In a way he should care about screwing "his friend" but the fact is he doesnt..He's a heel who doesnt give a s**t,,He just doesnt care that he had to rob his friend..No remorse no regrets just f**k em basically...the way I see it there's no remorse to be shown

We get that, we are just saying that this new character doesn't seem... realistic enough, based on what came before it. The only way that Roode could be friends and (as they kept emphasizing) "brothers" with Storm for so long, and then just screw him out of the title and not feel guilty about it at all is if he was never really friends with Storm in the first place, and he was just using him the whole time (like, for years), which, IMO, is slightly insane, and requires a slightly (for lack of a better word) "damaged" person to do (the only person in wrestling I could really see doing this would Raven- or maybe Kane, depending on the situation). As I said in my review this week, this character doesn't feel like Bobby Roode as much as it feels like Austin Aries' mind in Bobby Roode's body.

[KILLdozer]

Well everyone says he should show feelings of remorse and feel bad and guilty,,,Ive noticed that as the high point of this discussion..Well I completely disagree..In a way he should care about screwing "his friend" but the fact is he doesnt..He's a heel who doesnt give a s**t,,He just doesnt care that he had to rob his friend..No remorse no regrets just f**k em basically...the way I see it there's no remorse to be shown

We get that, we are just saying that this new character doesn't seem... realistic enough, based on what came before it. The only way that Roode could be friends and (as they kept emphasizing) "brothers" with Storm for so long, and then just screw him out of the title and not feel guilty about it at all is if he was never really friends with Storm in the first place, and he was just using him the whole time (like, for years), which, IMO, is slightly insane, and requires a slightly (for lack of a better word) "damaged" person to do (the only person in wrestling I could really see doing this would Raven- or maybe Kane, depending on the situation). As I said in my review this week, this character doesn't feel like Bobby Roode as much as it feels like Austin Aries' mind in Bobby Roode's body.

see I knew this was coming,,"That it doesnt seem real and that ppl like that dont exist," to paraphrase..ppl like this do exist,,He just doesnt give a shit about it,,No conscience or remorse at all...But I will digress,,it DOES bring it back to your point about insanity in a slight way,,which isnt how its been booked

[Big Red Machine]

Well everyone says he should show feelings of remorse and feel bad and guilty,,,Ive noticed that as the high point of this discussion..Well I completely disagree..In a way he should care about screwing "his friend" but the fact is he doesnt..He's a heel who doesnt give a s**t,,He just doesnt care that he had to rob his friend..No remorse no regrets just f**k em basically...the way I see it there's no remorse to be shown

We get that, we are just saying that this new character doesn't seem... realistic enough, based on what came before it. The only way that Roode could be friends and (as they kept emphasizing) "brothers" with Storm for so long, and then just screw him out of the title and not feel guilty about it at all is if he was never really friends with Storm in the first place, and he was just using him the whole time (like, for years), which, IMO, is slightly insane, and requires a slightly (for lack of a better word) "damaged" person to do (the only person in wrestling I could really see doing this would Raven- or maybe Kane, depending on the situation). As I said in my review this week, this character doesn't feel like Bobby Roode as much as it feels like Austin Aries' mind in Bobby Roode's body.

see I knew this was coming,,"That it doesnt seem real and that ppl like that dont exist," to paraphrase..ppl like this do exist,,He just doesnt give a s**t about it,,No conscience or remorse at all...But I will digress,,it DOES bring it back to your point about insanity in a slight way,,which isnt how its been booked

For something like that to be believable, though, it can't be something just said in retrospect. It has to be established through past events that this guy isn't all right in the head. That he is crazy enough to engage in a long-term plan to gain someone's trust for malicious intent.

Like I said during the build-up to Hardcore Justice last year "Are you seriously telling me that Raven has spent the last ten years becoming friends with his former mortal enemy, becoming "Uncle Scottie to the kids and wife he believes should be his... just for the chance to be able to destroy Tommy's final moment of glory?... Actually, now that I think about it, I can totally see Raven doing something like that."

With anyone else, that is completely ridiculous, but with Raven, and with Raven's history with Tommy, I can see that happening... but that is because of years of phenomenal character-work and storytelling from Raven that has leaned in that direction. With almost anyone else, it would be ridiculous, but with Raven and Tommy, it seems totally plausible. Roode hasn't come anywhere near that yet, and has never ventured anywhere near any territory that would lead in that direction.