Big Red Machine wrote:

badnewzxl wrote: wait a sec, tho BRM; I'll give you E&C, the Hardy's, APA, and Guerreros; but the Bulldogs, Valiants, and Blackjacks weren't WWF tag teams originally, were they? I agree with ECWFlair about Vince's dislike of(or at least impatience with) tag team wrestling; he cannot create a blockbuster tag team. However, this still comes back around to Vince's impatience with tag team wrestling. He thinks every team is spose to be like the Rockers and he gives no team a chance to be like LOD or the Midnight Express bc he doesn't keep them together long enough to be a great tag team. Haas & Benjamin had to wait years to get their tag team back together bc Vince didn't see that he could have turned the two into mega stars (and others by relation) if he would have put SOME emphasis on having SOME kind of Tag division....

Vince the first one to make those teams stars. As for your comments about Vince not being able to make a blockbuster tag team: The Hardys. E&C.
Can't, and doesn't want to are very different things.

badnewzxl wrote:
the Valiants and the Blackjacks were in the WWWF; so Vince (the Vince we're referring to) did NOT make them stars first; the Bulldogs were bigger internationally than they were in the states. I admit that the Hardy's and E&C are great, but other than those two, name me another tag team Vince McMahon has had put together, put over, and not RUINED WAY TOO SOON; I defy you....

cero2k wrote:

badnewzxl wrote:
the Valiants and the Blackjacks were in the WWWF; so Vince (the Vince we're referring to) did NOT make them stars first; the Bulldogs were bigger internationally than they were in the states. I admit that the Hardy's and E&C are great, but other than those two, name me another tag team Vince McMahon has had put together, put over, and not RUINED WAY TOO SOON; I defy you....

too cool....

i could argue that DX and the Brothers of Destruction were two teams 100% McMahon that didn't get ruined. While not great (IMO) , both teams are relevant as hell

Big Red Machine wrote:As for your comments about Vince not being able to make a blockbuster tag team: The Hardys. E&C.

ECWFlairfan wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote:As for your comments about Vince not being able to make a blockbuster tag team: The Hardys. E&C.

Edge & Christian teamed before WWF under different names (Sexton Hardcastle & Christian Cage I think)

Hardys teamed in their own backyard federation... great teams that got exposure in WWF/E got it by being great elsewhere first... & thats the true bottom line...

badnewzxl wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote:

badnewzxl wrote: wait a sec, tho BRM; I'll give you E&C, the Hardy's, APA, and Guerreros; but the Bulldogs, Valiants, and Blackjacks weren't WWF tag teams originally, were they? I agree with ECWFlair about Vince's dislike of(or at least impatience with) tag team wrestling; he cannot create a blockbuster tag team. However, this still comes back around to Vince's impatience with tag team wrestling. He thinks every team is spose to be like the Rockers and he gives no team a chance to be like LOD or the Midnight Express bc he doesn't keep them together long enough to be a great tag team. Haas & Benjamin had to wait years to get their tag team back together bc Vince didn't see that he could have turned the two into mega stars (and others by relation) if he would have put SOME emphasis on having SOME kind of Tag division....

Vince the first one to make those teams stars. As for your comments about Vince not being able to make a blockbuster tag team: The Hardys. E&C.
Can't, and doesn't want to are very different things.

the Valiants and the Blackjacks were in the WWWF; so Vince (the Vince we're referring to) did NOT make them stars first; the Bulldogs were bigger internationally than they were in the states.

badnewzxl wrote: I admit that the Hardy's and E&C are great, but other than those two, name me another tag team Vince McMahon has had put together, put over, and not RUINED WAY TOO SOON; I defy you....

Big Red Machine wrote: The Hart Foundation, Demolition, the New Age Outlaws, the APA, Londrick

badnewzxl wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote: The Hart Foundation, Demolition, the New Age Outlaws, the APA, Londrick

Hart Foundation- True
Demolition- Another good one
NAO- SUUUUUUUCKED! And when they were champs, WWE's tag division sucked. They weren't a good team, they were just
good characters at the time. There just weren't many good wrestlers nor good WRESTLING when those two clowns
were champs. I'd say those two were together for TOO Long. Billy Gunn was ok, but the Roaddogg just sucked!
APA- they were good
Londrick- how long were they even a team? A year? Year and a half? They were good, but I still think they were broken up
too early. Despite being the tag champs on SD!, both faded completely into obscurity bc WWE broke them up without
ANY plans on what to do with them

Big Red Machine wrote:

badnewzxl wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote: The Hart Foundation, Demolition, the New Age Outlaws, the APA, Londrick

Hart Foundation- True
Demolition- Another good one
NAO- SUUUUUUUCKED! And when they were champs, WWE's tag division sucked. They weren't a good team, they were just
good characters at the time. There just weren't many good wrestlers nor good WRESTLING when those two clowns
were champs. I'd say those two were together for TOO Long. Billy Gunn was ok, but the Roaddogg just sucked!
APA- they were good
Londrick- how long were they even a team? A year? Year and a half? They were good, but I still think they were broken up
too early. Despite being the tag champs on SD!, both faded completely into obscurity bc WWE broke them up without
ANY plans on what to do with them

Londrick teamed on Velocity for a while until Kendrick left, then teamed again from 05-08

Sassafras wrote:VERY stoked to see Lawler/Dundee and Hall/Nash so high on the list. Made my night. Personally, I'd have put Miz & Morrison, RVD & Sabu, and Haas & Benjamin MUCH higher on the list.