Owh man! Raw Wyatt And Undertaker note!

[KILLdozer]

Oh got dang it! That Wyatt horseshit/nonsense is really getting OUT OF HAND!

FUCK! THIS! GUY!

FUCK HIM!

AGAIN-FUCK HIM!

I didn't even watch it but from just reading about the aftermath: They're really actually trying to turn him into a combination of the Original Undertaker/AE Ministry of Darkness guy! No. No way! NO GOT DANG WAY! Word for word, piece by piece.

"Somewhere The Undertaker's sole is being digested. " Idiot. Other shit like that too he said. Come on. He's NOT that guy.

Never has been. He's just an idiot who talks shit endlessly. His opponents just look on usually like "wtf?" His name literally translates "sound of a jackass who thinks he's in charge for the betterment of things."Bray" is the sound of a donkey hollerin' and a "Wyatt" I imagine refers to the Sheriff-lawman, protector-"let me save you." Phase.

Again-fuck this motha fucker. Where does this ridiculous crap come from? Think of the most out there dumb chicanery that could be eerie and go with that? I might almost think of watching the idiot next week just to see how bad it really is. Another essay closed going off on this foolishness.

Remember when people thought he was one of the best new things about RAW? Now he's one of the worst bunches of crap.

Fuck him.

[Big Red Machine]

My thoughts exactly.

[KILLdozer]

Hey-I know-let's lift a bunch of weights, smoke like hell, and get tattooed and go off on him the whole entire got dang time!

[cero2k]

aside from not being there, what kind of angle would you like to see from the wyatts, dozer?

[NWK2000]

I like the Wyatt Family, I really do, especially now that it's four people instead of three. The only thing I'd change is having Bray cut a more sensible promo from time to time. It wouldn''t change the gimmick, and I have supreme confidence that the man behind the character could make it work.

[Big Red Machine]

The problem is that nothing Bray says ever comes to pass. All of these things like "follow the buzzards" and being "the new face of fear" and whatever else have never amounted to anything. It is my firm belief that creative had absolutely ZERO idea what to do with the Wyatts once the Cena feud was over, and that's something you can't do with a character who is supposed to be complex.

[NWK2000]

I'll give you an example of what I mean with a few fantasy booking spoilers

For reasons I won't go into at the moment, Bray Wyatt returns at one of the PPVs from being written off TV several months earlier in an injury angle with the Authority . His return sees him cost Seth Rollins the title in a match with Dean Ambrose. When asked why he has done what he's done, he says, "I have stolen the crown jewel from the king's treasure room, and passed it along to a common lunatic. Robin Hood did not interfere in King Richard's life until he began to play with the life of the average folk to further his own agenda."


While still speaking in fantastical analogy, it's still pretty easier to decipher what he means

The crown jewel- The WWE Title
The King- Triple H (or the Authority)
Common Lunatic- Ambrose
Robin Hood- Bray
King Richard- Triple H (again)
Play with the life of the average folk- Use The Authority to injure Wyatt

If Bray cut promos like that, where his promos were easily tied to what was going on, but not outright stating, it keeps the character in tact while not just talking about random stuff.

[KILLdozer]

I'll give you an example of what I mean with a few fantasy booking spoilers

For reasons I won't go into at the moment, Bray Wyatt returns at one of the PPVs from being written off TV several months earlier in an injury angle with the Authority . His return sees him cost Seth Rollins the title in a match with Dean Ambrose. When asked why he has done what he's done, he says, "I have stolen the crown jewel from the king's treasure room, and passed it along to a common lunatic. Robin Hood did not interfere in King Richard's life until he began to play with the life of the average folk to further his own agenda."


While still speaking in fantastical analogy, it's still pretty easier to decipher what he means

The crown jewel- The WWE Title
The King- Triple H (or the Authority)
Common Lunatic- Ambrose
Robin Hood- Bray
King Richard- Triple H (again)
Play with the life of the average folk- Use The Authority to injure Wyatt

If Bray cut promos like that, where his promos were easily tied to what was going on, but not outright stating, it keeps the character in tact while not just talking about random stuff.

Are you on dope? !?

[Big Red Machine]

I'll give you an example of what I mean with a few fantasy booking spoilers

For reasons I won't go into at the moment, Bray Wyatt returns at one of the PPVs from being written off TV several months earlier in an injury angle with the Authority . His return sees him cost Seth Rollins the title in a match with Dean Ambrose. When asked why he has done what he's done, he says, "I have stolen the crown jewel from the king's treasure room, and passed it along to a common lunatic. Robin Hood did not interfere in King Richard's life until he began to play with the life of the average folk to further his own agenda."


While still speaking in fantastical analogy, it's still pretty easier to decipher what he means

The crown jewel- The WWE Title
The King- Triple H (or the Authority)
Common Lunatic- Ambrose
Robin Hood- Bray
King Richard- Triple H (again)
Play with the life of the average folk- Use The Authority to injure Wyatt

If Bray cut promos like that, where his promos were easily tied to what was going on, but not outright stating, it keeps the character in tact while not just talking about random stuff.

Are you on dope? !?

What he's saying is that Bray's promos are only interesting if the words he's saying have some actual meaning.

[badnewzxl]

I must be the only person who likes Bray Wyatt as wwe's dark character, lol.

I don't know what you guys want; is there not allowed to be a dark, supernatural character BC they will never be as good as Taker. Dozer, you're my boy but why are the Wyatt's a Ministry rip off? Is the Ministry then a ripoff of the Dungeon of doom or any of Kevin Sullivan's groups besides the Varsity club?

And let's not forget that Taker did inexplicable shit his entire career and we just accept it BC he does it. Why does Wyatt not get that same courtesy? Whenever he does something, everyone talks about how it doesn't make sense, lol. The Wyatt's debuted by ATTACKING KANE for Christ's sake! I don't get why you guys get hung up on this like it lacks support but it they've given us just as much on Wyatt as they did on Taker. Never once did anyone say that Taker was a Zombie, but they call him the Dead man. So why can't Wyatt be the new face of fear? Taker never actually killed anyone, but he gets no guff for saying rest in piece; what's wrong with Wyatt saying follow the buzzards? These are just catchphrases and gimmicks. I understand not liking it, but pretending it makes no sense is just incorrect.

[Big Red Machine]

I must be the only person who likes Bray Wyatt as wwe's dark character, lol.

I don't know what you guys want; is there not allowed to be a dark, supernatural character BC they will never be as good as Taker. Dozer, you're my boy but why are the Wyatt's a Ministry rip off? Is the Ministry then a ripoff of the Dungeon of doom or any of Kevin Sullivan's groups besides the Varsity club?

And let's not forget that Taker did inexplicable shit his entire career and we just accept it BC he does it. Why does Wyatt not get that same courtesy? Whenever he does something, everyone talks about how it doesn't make sense, lol. The Wyatt's debuted by ATTACKING KANE for Christ's sake! I don't get why you guys get hung up on this like it lacks support but it they've given us just as much on Wyatt as they did on Taker. Never once did anyone say that Taker was a Zombie, but they call him the Dead man. So why can't Wyatt be the new face of fear? Taker never actually killed anyone, but he gets no guff for saying rest in piece; what's wrong with Wyatt saying follow the buzzards? These are just catchphrases and gimmicks. I understand not liking it, but pretending it makes no sense is just incorrect.

It's not that the things he does don't make sense. It's that nothing he says in his promos has any effect on anything that happens, so his promos become just a bunch of words, and thus a waste of time. His promos aren't cryptic anymore because we know that his words don't matter.

And for the record, I think most people do groan at Taker cutting promos like the one he did on Raw last week where he was talking about taking Brock's soul or whatever.

[badnewzxl]

I'll give you an example of what I mean with a few fantasy booking spoilers

For reasons I won't go into at the moment, Bray Wyatt returns at one of the PPVs from being written off TV several months earlier in an injury angle with the Authority . His return sees him cost Seth Rollins the title in a match with Dean Ambrose. When asked why he has done what he's done, he says, "I have stolen the crown jewel from the king's treasure room, and passed it along to a common lunatic. Robin Hood did not interfere in King Richard's life until he began to play with the life of the average folk to further his own agenda."


While still speaking in fantastical analogy, it's still pretty easier to decipher what he means

The crown jewel- The WWE Title
The King- Triple H (or the Authority)
Common Lunatic- Ambrose
Robin Hood- Bray
King Richard- Triple H (again)
Play with the life of the average folk- Use The Authority to injure Wyatt

If Bray cut promos like that, where his promos were easily tied to what was going on, but not outright stating, it keeps the character in tact while not just talking about random stuff.

Are you on dope? !?

What he's saying is that Bray's promos are only interesting if the words he's saying have some actual meaning.

Jake Roberts and Warrior are both very well known for nonsensical promos. A lot of folks found their characters more intriguing BC of their confusing promos.

Plus, the guys only been here for two years; Taker was facing the fucking Giant Gonzalez in his second year in WWE. Give the guy a break

[Big Red Machine]

What he's saying is that Bray's promos are only interesting if the words he's saying have some actual meaning.

Jake Roberts and Warrior are both very well known for nonsensical promos. A lot of folks found their characters more intriguing BC of their confusing promos.

Warrior's promos were nonsensical and I thought they stunk. Jake a very good example of what Bray should be trying to do. With Jake it always felt like he had a point. Like the things he was saying had some deeper meaning. With Bray at this point he is just saying words.

Plus, the guys only been here for two years; Taker was facing the fucking Giant Gonzalez in his second year in WWE. Give the guy a break

Not sure how this is relevant. I find his promos to be a waste of time. Who cares how long he's been around? If the promos mattered, I would be into them whether he had been here two weeks, two years, or two decades.

[badnewzxl]

What he's saying is that Bray's promos are only interesting if the words he's saying have some actual meaning.

Jake Roberts and Warrior are both very well known for nonsensical promos. A lot of folks found their characters more intriguing BC of their confusing promos.

Warrior's promos were nonsensical and I thought they stunk. Jake a very good example of what Bray should be trying to do. With Jake it always felt like he had a point. Like the things he was saying had some deeper meaning. With Bray at this point he is just saying words.

Plus, the guys only been here for two years; Taker was facing the fucking Giant Gonzalez in his second year in WWE. Give the guy a break

Not sure how this is relevant. I find his promos to be a waste of time. Who cares how long he's been around? If the promos mattered, I would be into them whether he had been here two weeks, two years, or two decades.

1. I get that.
2. This thread began on the note that Bray Wyatt is not the Undertaker, I.E. Bray can't do what Taker did. However, two years in, they have accomplished the same minus a title reign.

[NWK2000]

Bad News has an interesting point, in that there will be a whole host of people who are intrigued by the character because his promos are non-sensical. And, in truth, I enjoy them too. It sounds different than most of the other promos on a Raw because it's nonsense. However, as I explained earlier, it does him an extreme dis-service when you're trying to make sense as to why he's targeted a certain character for a feud.

[Big Red Machine]

Bad News has an interesting point, in that there will be a whole host of people who are intrigued by the character because his promos are non-sensical. And, in truth, I enjoy them too. It sounds different than most of the other promos on a Raw because it's nonsense. However, as I explained earlier, it does him an extreme dis-service when you're trying to make sense as to why he's targeted a certain character for a feud.

It's not the lack of sense that makes them sound different. It's Bray's delivery. He has a GREAT delivery for his character. If the words coming out of his mouth actually mattered, all of his promos would be amazing.

[KILLdozer]

Corporate Undertaker lol

[XIV]

Bad News has an interesting point, in that there will be a whole host of people who are intrigued by the character because his promos are non-sensical. And, in truth, I enjoy them too. It sounds different than most of the other promos on a Raw because it's nonsense. However, as I explained earlier, it does him an extreme dis-service when you're trying to make sense as to why he's targeted a certain character for a feud.

It's not the lack of sense that makes them sound different. It's Bray's delivery. He has a GREAT delivery for his character. If the words coming out of his mouth actually mattered, all of his promos would be amazing.

Need a "like" button for that... It comes all down to this. If his character backed up waht he said and he made a bit more sense in what he said. Bray would be at the top.

[badnewzxl]

Bad News has an interesting point, in that there will be a whole host of people who are intrigued by the character because his promos are non-sensical. And, in truth, I enjoy them too. It sounds different than most of the other promos on a Raw because it's nonsense. However, as I explained earlier, it does him an extreme dis-service when you're trying to make sense as to why he's targeted a certain character for a feud.

It's not the lack of sense that makes them sound different. It's Bray's delivery. He has a GREAT delivery for his character. If the words coming out of his mouth actually mattered, all of his promos would be amazing.

Need a "like" button for that... It comes all down to this. If his character backed up waht he said and he made a bit more sense in what he said. Bray would be at the top.

Not true. Making sense is absolutely NOT paramount in the wrestling industry. Again, Warrior had nonsensical promos that got over BC of his delivery. Not once did any of that shit make sense. Nobody remembers what he said, but they remember his promos. And as much as folks on here are complaining about it, Bray IS getting over through those promos. He's a zealot, he's supposed to talk nonsense. Once something he says comes true, then the shit will go down BC people are use to his words just being crazy shit a crazy guy is spouting. When that crazy shit does begin to make sense it'll be great; if it always makes sense they he won't get over as a cult leading lunatic and he will be just another lackluster heel in WWE.

[XIV]

It's not the lack of sense that makes them sound different. It's Bray's delivery. He has a GREAT delivery for his character. If the words coming out of his mouth actually mattered, all of his promos would be amazing.

Need a "like" button for that... It comes all down to this. If his character backed up waht he said and he made a bit more sense in what he said. Bray would be at the top.

Not true. Making sense is absolutely NOT paramount in the wrestling industry. Again, Warrior had nonsensical promos that got over BC of his delivery. Not once did any of that shit make sense. Nobody remembers what he said, but they remember his promos. And as much as folks on here are complaining about it, Bray IS getting over through those promos. He's a zealot, he's supposed to talk nonsense. Once something he says comes true, then the shit will go down BC people are use to his words just being crazy shit a crazy guy is spouting. When that crazy shit does begin to make sense it'll be great; if it always makes sense they he won't get over as a cult leading lunatic and he will be just another lackluster heel in WWE.

What I meant by making sense is that you want the viewer to at least have some form of clue at picking out what you mean. You don't have to says it straight, but "follow the buzzards" and "new face of fear", no-one fears you Bray because you've lost to everyone.