in the two companies awwea and the Old WCW which past wrestler was the best to never hold either championship belt i have a list


Mr Perfect: Probly the smoothest wrestler in the ring could go with anybody championship material


Scott Hall: Reguardless of personal issues Scott in his day was an incredible talent


Owen Hart: Owen just should've had that title at least once he was incredible as good as Bret if not better


Jake Roberts: great stick man perfect mind fo wrestling maybe to much of a loner to be champion



Whats everybody's take on this

BOD wrote:in the two companies awwea and the Old WCW which past wrestler was the best to never hold either championship belt i have a list


Mr Perfect: Probly the smoothest wrestler in the ring could go with anybody championship material


Scott Hall: Reguardless of personal issues Scott in his day was an incredible talent


Owen Hart: Owen just should've had that title at least once he was incredible as good as Bret if not better


Jake Roberts: great stick man perfect mind fo wrestling maybe to much of a loner to be champion



Whats everybody's take on this

I agree with all of these, though I will put my money more on Perfect and Hart. Mainly being Perfect [Hennig] was a damn good athlete and he could very well outdo everyone in the locker room back in his day. Same for Owen Hart. Though scripted, the Hart Dungeon got it's rep for a reason and I have no doubt Owen could outdo virtually everyone in the locker room when he was around.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Ted Dibiase never got the belt and he would have been an excellent heel champion.

Dean Malenko
Davey Richards (if we don't consider the FIP as a world title, which i don't)
Chris Hero
El Generico
Christopher Daniels

Darkil you hit the nail on the head right there with both Perfect and Hart Owen could out wrestle even Bret IMO but back in the day Hall and Roberts were both great wrestlers Jake could tell a story better than most.


Also think about this one Marty Jannety what do you all think

BOD wrote:
Also think about this one Marty Jannety what do you all think

personally, i don't think Jannety was world champion material ever, aside from being completely overshadowed by HBK, his caliber was always under many wrestlers of his era...

Davey
Owen
Jake Roberts
Lance Storm
Christopher Daniels

Jake Roberts
Scott Hall
Owen Hart
Roddy Piper

I never count Hennig bc he was the AWA champ

I may be wrong, but LANCE STORM!!!

badnewzxl wrote:Roddy Piper

This

Owen Hart
Christopher Daniels (why TNA never strapped the belt on him is still to this day a mystery to me)
Davey Richards (though there's still time)

Curt Hennig
British Bulldog

So what titles are being counted as World championships? I say WWE, WCW, NWA, TNA, ECW, AWA, All-Japan, New Japan/IWGP, World Class, USWA...

My argument will always be Arn Anderson... In his prime he beat BOTH Hogan & Flair when BOTH were in their prime...

ECWFlairfan wrote:So what titles are being counted as World championships? I say WWE, WCW, NWA, TNA, ECW, AWA, All-Japan, New Japan/IWGP, World Class, USWA...

My argument will always be Arn Anderson... In his prime he beat BOTH Hogan & Flair when BOTH were in their prime...

I wouldn't say that; mainly bc the 90's wasn't either of those guys' primes. But Arn is indeed one of the best never to hold a singles world title.

badnewzxl wrote:

ECWFlairfan wrote:So what titles are being counted as World championships? I say WWE, WCW, NWA, TNA, ECW, AWA, All-Japan, New Japan/IWGP, World Class, USWA...

My argument will always be Arn Anderson... In his prime he beat BOTH Hogan & Flair when BOTH were in their prime...

I wouldn't say that; mainly bc the 90's wasn't either of those guys' primes. But Arn is indeed one of the best never to hold a singles world title.

they (Hogan & Flair) were at the end of their prime but i say they were in their prime... (Flair & Arn both had primes that lasted over a decade though, talent wise...)

ECWFlairfan wrote:So what titles are being counted as World championships? I say WWE, WCW, NWA, TNA, ECW, AWA, All-Japan, New Japan/IWGP, World Class, USWA...

My argument will always be Arn Anderson... In his prime he beat BOTH Hogan & Flair when BOTH were in their prime...

ECW only if we count the old school won only, not the WWE/ECW one.

and right now, I think that the ROH world title is more of a world title than the TNA world title...

cero2k wrote:

ECWFlairfan wrote:So what titles are being counted as World championships? I say WWE, WCW, NWA, TNA, ECW, AWA, All-Japan, New Japan/IWGP, World Class, USWA...

My argument will always be Arn Anderson... In his prime he beat BOTH Hogan & Flair when BOTH were in their prime...

ECW only if we count the old school won only, not the WWE/ECW one.

and right now, I think that the ROH world title is more of a world title than the TNA world title...

What about AWA? They were number three back in the day; just like ECW was in the 90's....

badnewzxl wrote:Jake Roberts
Scott Hall
Owen Hart
Roddy Piper

I never count Hennig bc he was the AWA champ

Come on now. The AWA title was and still is a very respected title. The person he beat to win the title is a HOF caliber wrestler, Nick Bockwinkel. The only reason not to really count that title reign is because the roster of the AWA after Hogan left was crap. BTW, I just bought the AWA dvd for $5 at Wal Mart. Probably the best story I've watched.

Earth Child wrote:

badnewzxl wrote:Roddy Piper

This

Roddy Pipper sucked in the ring after he left Mid-Atlantic wrestling. I would have never considered him a world champion. Even if you based it on his great charisma.

Catus Jack Manson wrote:

badnewzxl wrote:Jake Roberts
Scott Hall
Owen Hart
Roddy Piper

I never count Hennig bc he was the AWA champ

Come on now. The AWA title was and still is a very respected title. The person he beat to win the title is a HOF caliber wrestler, Nick Bockwinkel. The only reason not to really count that title reign is because the roster of the AWA after Hogan left was crap. BTW, I just bought the AWA dvd for $5 at Wal Mart. Probably the best story I've watched.

I think they had a pretty good roster; on ESPN they had Col. DeBeers, Wahoo McDaniel, the Rockers, Scott Hall, Kurt Hennig, Stan Hansen, King Kong Brody, Sgt, Slaughter, Sherry Martel, Medusa, Nick Bockwinkel, and a few more guys. I'd say that was a pretty good roster....

badnewzxl wrote:

Catus Jack Manson wrote:

badnewzxl wrote:Jake Roberts
Scott Hall
Owen Hart
Roddy Piper

I never count Hennig bc he was the AWA champ

Come on now. The AWA title was and still is a very respected title. The person he beat to win the title is a HOF caliber wrestler, Nick Bockwinkel. The only reason not to really count that title reign is because the roster of the AWA after Hogan left was crap. BTW, I just bought the AWA dvd for $5 at Wal Mart. Probably the best story I've watched.

I think they had a pretty good roster; on ESPN they had Col. DeBeers, Wahoo McDaniel, the Rockers, Scott Hall, Kurt Hennig, Stan Hansen, King Kong Brody, Sgt, Slaughter, Sherry Martel, Medusa, Nick Bockwinkel, and a few more guys. I'd say that was a pretty good roster....

True. I want to say a bunch of stuff, but it would ruin the DVD for you. Either way, a bunch of those names didn't stay long. At most during the time the AWA was on ESPN, most of those names were gone within a year or two.

Here's a guy I didn't see mentioned yet: Magnum TA