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WWE officially announces 'Crown Jewel' event for Saudi Arabia

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WWE's next show in Saudi Arabia is finally official.

During the opening segment of tonight's Raw, it was announced that WWE will be returning to Saudi Arabia on Friday, November 2 for an event called "Crown Jewel." The show will take place at King Fahd International Stadium in Riyadh and will air live on the WWE Network.

Roman Reigns defending the Universal Championship against Brock Lesnar and Braun Strowman in a triple threat match was also confirmed for Crown Jewel.

November 2 had been the expected date for WWE's return to Saudi Arabia, and it being made official means that the event will be held on the same week as Evolution. The Nassau Coliseum in Long Island, New York will host the all-woman's PPV on Sunday, October 28 before Crown Jewel takes place on Friday.

Following April's Greatest Royal Rumble, Crown Jewel will be the second event in WWE's 10-year deal with The Saudi General Sports Authority.

Here's what the updated WWE PPV schedule looks like through the end of the year:

October 6 -- Super Show-Down (Melbourne, Australia)
October 28 -- Evolution (Long Island, New York)
November 2 -- Crown Jewel (Riyadh, Saudi Arabia)
November 18 -- Survivor Series (Los Angeles, California)
December 16 -- TLC (San Jose, California)
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Re: WWE officially announces 'Crown Jewel' event for Saudi Arabia

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Awh shit no. They're just trying to outdo themselves with *worst name ever you can hear them say over and over and over again until the show show happens*, huh?.
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Does it not occur to them that doing a "no girls allowed" show less than a week after their historic "first-ever all-women's PPV" is basically shooting themselves in the foot, P.R.-wise?
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Re: WWE officially announces 'Crown Jewel' event for Saudi Arabia

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Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 17th, '18, 22:37 Does it not occur to them that doing a "no girls allowed" show less than a week after their historic "first-ever all-women's PPV" is basically shooting themselves in the foot, P.R.-wise?
Lesser of the two evils? They're going to get crap regardless, but $$$ so who cares. They stand to get LESS crap because the shows will be promoted simultaneously. I see your point with the hypocrisy of it all, but I think it ABSOLUTELY occurred to them, and we can expect an Evolution PPV right before every Saudi show moving forward. I mean, it kind of shuts the feminist argument down without changing a thing.

I'm wondering the reverse. How do the Saudi's justify doing business with a company that defiles their belief system, especially this run when their show is going to basically be co-promoted with an all women's show?
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Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 17th, '18, 22:37 Does it not occur to them that doing a "no girls allowed" show less than a week after their historic "first-ever all-women's PPV" is basically shooting themselves in the foot, P.R.-wise?
it was on purpose, now no one can shit on them for doing a no women show since they had one just a week ago and so all the women had to stay for that show while the men traveled.

the question now is, are they going to do a Canadian only show next?
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Post by XIV » Sep 18th, '18, 11:52

cero2k wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:44
Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 17th, '18, 22:37 Does it not occur to them that doing a "no girls allowed" show less than a week after their historic "first-ever all-women's PPV" is basically shooting themselves in the foot, P.R.-wise?
it was on purpose, now no one can shit on them for doing a no women show since they had one just a week ago and so all the women had to stay for that show while the men traveled.

the question now is, are they going to do a Canadian only show next?
No of course not. There is no reason to.
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Re: WWE officially announces 'Crown Jewel' event for Saudi Arabia

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XIV wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 11:52
No of course not. There is no reason to.
Monaco, Japan, China or North Korea. Probably. They’re targeting super rich areas or large populations.
I was saying because of the Canada/SA issues, I'm guessing no Canadians are allowed on this show
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Bob-O wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:36
Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 17th, '18, 22:37 Does it not occur to them that doing a "no girls allowed" show less than a week after their historic "first-ever all-women's PPV" is basically shooting themselves in the foot, P.R.-wise?
Lesser of the two evils? They're going to get crap regardless, but $$$ so who cares. They stand to get LESS crap because the shows will be promoted simultaneously. I see your point with the hypocrisy of it all, but I think it ABSOLUTELY occurred to them, and we can expect an Evolution PPV right before every Saudi show moving forward. I mean, it kind of shuts the feminist argument down without changing a thing.
Yes, they're going to get crap either way, but I think you get slightly less crap for doing the women's show second (using the women's show to cut off the negative news story of the Saudi show, not the other way around). I also think that if they book the Saudi show the same way they did the last one where it was mostly a glorified house-show full of non-finishes and stuff that never mattered again (for example, the freakin' "Greatest Royal Rumble" that they named the whole show after) but then book the women's PPV like an actual PPV with matches that are truly unique (Trish vs. Alexa) as opposed to house-show rehashes of stuff like Cena/Hunter and Cena/Taker, then you can spin it as this being clearly more important than the Saudi show, with the Saudi show- "real WWE" as opposed to a watered-down, spreading tolerance and democracy version of WWE (if it were me in their position I'd have booked a show in somewhere like the UAE the next day or Sunday and brought along two-four women, plus Mustafa Ali/Sami Zayn/Noam Dar and whatever other people whose heritage or gender makes them persona non grata in Saudi Arabia and drop them off the day before to do local publicity, then use that show's footage along with the Saudi stuff to show how you're teaching tolerance, etc. etc.). And the Saudi's won't have a problem with you spinning it that way because...
Bob-O wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:36 I'm wondering the reverse. How do the Saudi's justify doing business with a company that defiles their belief system, especially this run when their show is going to basically be co-promoted with an all women's show?
The Saudi's and the Wahabists have been comfortably in bed together (originally quite literally) for close to three-hundred years now. They are both so interdependent on each other that they have both learned exactly how far they can push- whether that pushing either all show, all legitimate, or some combination thereof- in order for everyone to get what they want/need politically in order to placate the populace. There is a reason that, despite having such a big population relative to the other Arab countries in the region (and we'll throw in Iran and Turkey as well), they are the country that has done BY FAR the best job of keeping things stable. The Wahabists have been just strict enough (read as: oppressive and intolerant) to keep and out-and-out murderous ISIS-type ideology out while still being extremely fundamentalist, and the House of Saud has been just oppressive enough to remain in total control while keeping the general populace happy enough to keep out the Nasserist/Arab Socialist or Khomeni-ist forces that had caused problems in the other non-Island monarchies in the region. They know how to say just the right things about the Palestinians to keep their populace angry at Israel, but not angry enough that the population realizes that they haven't actually done anything to help crush the evil Zionist entity militarily since 1948, or that the country does done a conspicuously thorough job of avoiding taking in Palestinians as compared to other Arab countries (even though, both being enemies of the Hashemites, you'd think they would be natural allies) because they realized what a destabilizing force the Palestinians would prove to be (see: Jordan, Lebanon), and yet still without saying enough that they had totally shot any possibility of relations with Israel should the strategic need arise (as it has in the last few years) and so now, when someone needs to bomb an Iranian nuclear reactor, it's going to Israeli jets flying over Saudi Arabia to get there, and when they do, the Saudis are going to know about it far enough in advance to make sure that every radar operator in the country is on break when it happens, and yet the Saudis are never going to admit it in public until it makes political sense for them to do so.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the House of Saud and the Wahabists who they have put in charge of religion in their country are really the same clique of people who have been doing this dance together for years and are very good at knowing exactly how to do things so that they appear just outraged enough to get credit from the people who want to be outraged while being just modern/progressive/diplomatic enough to impress the people who want them to be more modern/progressive/diplomatic.
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Man Wtf are you even talking about? Lol.
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Re: WWE officially announces 'Crown Jewel' event for Saudi Arabia

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cero2k wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:44 the question now is, are they going to do a Canadian only show next?
lmao, I was going to reply to this with an All Canadian card - "The World's Greatest Lumberjack Match", and in my 30 second search for names beyond Kevin Owens and Bobby Roode, I found out that Jinder Mahal is Canadian and I think this is the best thing ever. Hope the prince doesn't find out...
Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 13:17
Bob-O wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:36
Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 17th, '18, 22:37 Does it not occur to them that doing a "no girls allowed" show less than a week after their historic "first-ever all-women's PPV" is basically shooting themselves in the foot, P.R.-wise?
Lesser of the two evils? They're going to get crap regardless, but $$$ so who cares. They stand to get LESS crap because the shows will be promoted simultaneously. I see your point with the hypocrisy of it all, but I think it ABSOLUTELY occurred to them, and we can expect an Evolution PPV right before every Saudi show moving forward. I mean, it kind of shuts the feminist argument down without changing a thing.
Yes, they're going to get crap either way, but I think you get slightly less crap for doing the women's show second (using the women's show to cut off the negative news story of the Saudi show, not the other way around). I also think that if they book the Saudi show the same way they did the last one where it was mostly a glorified house-show full of non-finishes and stuff that never mattered again
I think you're over-thinking it, or maybe I'm over-thinking it...
But, I don't recall seeing much backlash at all AFTER the show that wasn't already present BEFORE the show, and even then, once the stats for the show were released and WWE moved on, so did everyone else. The mainstream media outlets and sponsors (you know, those things Vince puts ahead of the fans), couldn't care less about the relevance of the match outcomes or how important the shows are by comparison. This stops almost any mainstream flak they could possibly get before it starts.
Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 13:17
Bob-O wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:36 I'm wondering the reverse. How do the Saudi's justify doing business with a company that defiles their belief system, especially this run when their show is going to basically be co-promoted with an all women's show?
The Saudi's and the Wahabists have been comfortably in bed together (originally quite literally) for close to three-hundred years now. They are both so interdependent on each other that they have both learned exactly how far they can push- whether that pushing either all show, all legitimate, or some combination thereof- in order for everyone to get what they want/need politically in order to placate the populace. There is a reason that, despite having such a big population relative to the other Arab countries in the region (and we'll throw in Iran and Turkey as well), they are the country that has done BY FAR the best job of keeping things stable. The Wahabists have been just strict enough (read as: oppressive and intolerant) to keep and out-and-out murderous ISIS-type ideology out while still being extremely fundamentalist, and the House of Saud has been just oppressive enough to remain in total control while keeping the general populace happy enough to keep out the Nasserist/Arab Socialist or Khomeni-ist forces that had caused problems in the other non-Island monarchies in the region. They know how to say just the right things about the Palestinians to keep their populace angry at Israel, but not angry enough that the population realizes that they haven't actually done anything to help crush the evil Zionist entity militarily since 1948, or that the country does done a conspicuously thorough job of avoiding taking in Palestinians as compared to other Arab countries (even though, both being enemies of the Hashemites, you'd think they would be natural allies) because they realized what a destabilizing force the Palestinians would prove to be (see: Jordan, Lebanon), and yet still without saying enough that they had totally shot any possibility of relations with Israel should the strategic need arise (as it has in the last few years) and so now, when someone needs to bomb an Iranian nuclear reactor, it's going to Israeli jets flying over Saudi Arabia to get there, and when they do, the Saudis are going to know about it far enough in advance to make sure that every radar operator in the country is on break when it happens, and yet the Saudis are never going to admit it in public until it makes political sense for them to do so.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the House of Saud and the Wahabists who they have put in charge of religion in their country are really the same clique of people who have been doing this dance together for years and are very good at knowing exactly how to do things so that they appear just outraged enough to get credit from the people who want to be outraged while being just modern/progressive/diplomatic enough to impress the people who want them to be more modern/progressive/diplomatic.
This was actually really insightful! Thanks for taking the time!
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Bob-O wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 23:21
cero2k wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:44 the question now is, are they going to do a Canadian only show next?
lmao, I was going to reply to this with an All Canadian card - "The World's Greatest Lumberjack Match", and in my 30 second search for names beyond Kevin Owens and Bobby Roode, I found out that Jinder Mahal is Canadian and I think this is the best thing ever. Hope the prince doesn't find out...
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Bob-O wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 23:21
cero2k wrote: Sep 18th, '18, 07:44 the question now is, are they going to do a Canadian only show next?
lmao, I was going to reply to this with an All Canadian card - "The World's Greatest Lumberjack Match", and in my 30 second search for names beyond Kevin Owens and Bobby Roode, I found out that Jinder Mahal is Canadian and I think this is the best thing ever. Hope the prince doesn't find out...
Now I have this image in my head of Lance Storm vs. Chris Jericho with Bret Hart as the Special Guest Referee and every Canadian who has ever worked for the company surrounding the ring (which fills not only the entire ringside area but also the first seven rows) as Michael Cole constantly tells me that WWE is "making history" by having the most lumberjacks for a Lumberjack Match EVER!" while his commentary partner, "Canadian Trailblazer" Pat Patterson buries his head in his hands in shame.
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Well yeah everyone has known Jinder Mahal is actually Canadian lmao.

Since...before all that failed nonsense last year.
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KILLdozer wrote: Sep 19th, '18, 20:18 Well yeah everyone has known Jinder Mahal is actually Canadian lmao.

Since...before all that failed nonsense last year.
I'm pretty sure Vince doesn't know that yet
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Meltzer and Alvarez have confirmed that it will be DX vs Brothers of Destruction for this show.
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cero2k wrote: Sep 20th, '18, 13:28 Meltzer and Alvarez have confirmed that it will be DX vs Brothers of Destruction for this show.
These legends matches that they're doing on big international shows feel so weird because they're so separate from everything else.
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Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 20th, '18, 14:10
cero2k wrote: Sep 20th, '18, 13:28 Meltzer and Alvarez have confirmed that it will be DX vs Brothers of Destruction for this show.
These legends matches that they're doing on big international shows feel so weird because they're so separate from everything else.
with Saudi it's really because it's a personal party for the prince and that's what he wants. Last show dude was asking for Yokozuna and Warrior, he's just a fan of whatever names he saw as a child.
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cero2k wrote: Sep 20th, '18, 14:13
Big Red Machine wrote: Sep 20th, '18, 14:10
cero2k wrote: Sep 20th, '18, 13:28 Meltzer and Alvarez have confirmed that it will be DX vs Brothers of Destruction for this show.
These legends matches that they're doing on big international shows feel so weird because they're so separate from everything else.
with Saudi it's really because it's a personal party for the prince and that's what he wants. Last show dude was asking for Yokozuna and Warrior, he's just a fan of whatever names he saw as a child.
It's not just that, though. It's also Taker vs. Hunter on the Australia show, and the fact that these shows are the only place we've seen Cena. It's weird.
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It's not just that, though. It's also Taker vs. Hunter on the Australia show, and the fact that these shows are the only place we've seen Cena. It's weird.
This is not that new or weird thing, it's like Jericho that used to work on most of the Japan 'house shows', what I don't like about it is that they build them on during the main shows and then it really just leads to a one off on a special. If they want to treat them as canon then treat it as a PPV on the calendar
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