Change made to AEW Dynamite six-woman tag team match

[Big Red Machine]

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By Bryan Rose | @br26 | Mar 8, 2021 1:22 pm

There has been a change to the six-woman tag team match set for AEW Dynamite.

A video posted this afternoon on social media showed Britt Baker telling Tony Schiavone that Rebel would be unable to be cleared by both herself and the Jaguars team doctor for their match on Dynamite. She then introduced her new partner, Nyla Rose. It will now be Rose, Baker, and Maki Itoh against Hikaru Shida, Ryo Mizunami, and Thunder Rosa.

Itoh appeared on last night’s Revolution Buy-In pre-show, replacing Rebel in a match where she and Baker defeated Thunder Rosa and Riho. Later on pay-per-view, Rose, Rebel, Itoh, and Baker attacked Shida and Mizunami after Shida successfully defened the AEW Women's title against Mizunami. Rosa then came for the save.

Also announced for this Wednesday is TNT Champion Darby Allin vs. Scorpio Sky for the title, Matt Jackson vs. Rey Fenix, and a Inner Circle war council meeting following MJF and Jericho’s loss at Revolution.

[Big Red Machine]

So the storyline is that AEW management are all idiots who are now falling for the same lie twice in two days?

[cero2k]

So the storyline is that AEW management are all idiots who are now falling for the same lie twice in two days?

or Baker has the doctor in her pocket, office can't book someone who isn't cleared, it be a lawsuit if it turns out to be legit

[Big Red Machine]

So the storyline is that AEW management are all idiots who are now falling for the same lie twice in two days?

or Baker has the doctor in her pocket, office can't book someone who isn't cleared, it be a lawsuit if it turns out to be legit

If that's what the actual storyline turns out to be then I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. That being said, every time we do this, I turn out to be right that there is never any explanation given or follow-up, so maybe you should stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and just call them out for their bad storytelling?

[cero2k]

If that's what the actual storyline turns out to be then I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. That being said, every time we do this, I turn out to be right that there is never any explanation given or follow-up, so maybe you should stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and just call them out for their bad storytelling?

i'll do it if you start watching all of their products before saying they don't explain anything

[Thelone]

A certain son of a famous wrestler/booker once said that you only need to watch Dynamite to understand what is happening. Of course, this is from the same people who once pretended they were going to present a more sports-based product.

[XIV]

If that's what the actual storyline turns out to be then I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. That being said, every time we do this, I turn out to be right that there is never any explanation given or follow-up, so maybe you should stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and just call them out for their bad storytelling?

i'll do it if you start watching all of their products before saying they don't explain anything

That’s not how it should work, in any company!
Dark is about giving their guys rings time and limited exposure, don’t use that and the being the elite show to give me storyline and expect me to have seen it all.

I’ve always had an issue with that. If something happens, tell me why there and then and explain it in retrospect “last week on dynamite” it takes mere seconds to catch someone up.

[Big Red Machine]

What they said.

[cero2k]

That’s not how it should work, in any company!
Dark is about giving their guys rings time and limited exposure, don’t use that and the being the elite show to give me storyline and expect me to have seen it all.

I’ve always had an issue with that. If something happens, tell me why there and then and explain it in retrospect “last week on dynamite” it takes mere seconds to catch someone up.

I honestly disagree, I think it's just fans expected to be fed in the mouth. Would you expect to go watch Avengers Endgame and be explained how every single superheroe got their powers from? and that's the lowest of the lowbrow movie out there.

You guys either didn't watch the attitude era + Invasion + every time there hasn't been a roster separation, or you complained about this between Smackdown and RAW, right?

I hadn't even watched the video and I still got it right. The video was there, it was mentioned in the OP article,



I'm sorry to all present, but to me this is just laziness and a lack of interest in the fault of the fan, everything is out there, accessible, free. Excuses like language barriers for non-english speaking promotions, or that things aren't included in the two hour span of a show are crutches. The results of DARK are literally show in a carousel on every dynamite. If someone wants the FULL story in order to nitpick it, then go and watch the FULL product, if you don't care to do so, then don't be annoyed that the answer is there and it wasn't served on a silver platter.

[XIV]

That’s not how it should work, in any company!
Dark is about giving their guys rings time and limited exposure, don’t use that and the being the elite show to give me storyline and expect me to have seen it all.

I’ve always had an issue with that. If something happens, tell me why there and then and explain it in retrospect “last week on dynamite” it takes mere seconds to catch someone up.

I honestly disagree, I think it's just fans expected to be fed in the mouth. Would you expect to go watch Avengers Endgame and be explained how every single superheroe got their powers from? and that's the lowest of the lowbrow movie out there.

You guys either didn't watch the attitude era + Invasion + every time there hasn't been a roster separation, or you complained about this between Smackdown and RAW, right?

I hadn't even watched the video and I still got it right. The video was there, it was mentioned in the OP article,



I'm sorry to all present, but to me this is just laziness and a lack of interest in the fault of the fan, everything is out there, accessible, free. Excuses like language barriers for non-english speaking promotions, or that things aren't included in the two hour span of a show are crutches. The results of DARK are literally show in a carousel on every dynamite. If someone wants the FULL story in order to nitpick it, then go and watch the FULL product, if you don't care to do so, then don't be annoyed that the answer is there and it wasn't served on a silver platter.

You say it’s “laziness and lack of interest of the fan”... I’d say it’s laziness from the company.

Okay, seeing as you use it first, let’s use the Marvel Cinematic Universe as an example... sure getting to Endgame involved watching various movies through the phases, but think of Endgame as the PPV and the other movies in the series are your Dynamite, your main attraction, everything is explained movie to love building towards that Maine event.... HOWEVER they never used their MCU TV shows like Agents of Shield to further the main storylines and expect you watch them, because they knew that they are far less viewed than the movies, so it would have been a dumb decision that confused many fans. Is that lazy screenwriting? Absolutely not.

The same goes here.

You can hate on WWE all you like, but at least when they explain something to you, they’ll at least give you video “ or pictures “in case you missed it, here’s what happened last week/on NXT/on Smackdown” and they’ll catch you up and it doesn’t burn a bunch of TV.

So I’ll say it again. It’s laziness from the company.

[Big Red Machine]

That’s not how it should work, in any company!
Dark is about giving their guys rings time and limited exposure, don’t use that and the being the elite show to give me storyline and expect me to have seen it all.

I’ve always had an issue with that. If something happens, tell me why there and then and explain it in retrospect “last week on dynamite” it takes mere seconds to catch someone up.

I honestly disagree, I think it's just fans expected to be fed in the mouth. Would you expect to go watch Avengers Endgame and be explained how every single superheroe got their powers from? and that's the lowest of the lowbrow movie out there.

You guys either didn't watch the attitude era + Invasion + every time there hasn't been a roster separation, or you complained about this between Smackdown and RAW, right?

I hadn't even watched the video and I still got it right. The video was there, it was mentioned in the OP article,



I'm sorry to all present, but to me this is just laziness and a lack of interest in the fault of the fan, everything is out there, accessible, free. Excuses like language barriers for non-english speaking promotions, or that things aren't included in the two hour span of a show are crutches. The results of DARK are literally show in a carousel on every dynamite. If someone wants the FULL story in order to nitpick it, then go and watch the FULL product, if you don't care to do so, then don't be annoyed that the answer is there and it wasn't served on a silver platter.

1. On the Marvel comparison, I don't believe the situations are analogous. I will admit that I am struggling to articulate them but here goes:
Marvel is asking for two and a half hours of my time every four to six months. AEW is asking for at least four hours of my time a week- half of which is almost entirely squashes, for which the crawl on Dark suffices- and also wants me to be attuned to all of their (and their wrestlers') social media channels every hour of the day to make sure I don't miss anything. That's a very different time commitment.

2. Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but I don't believe that the criticism of fans being hand-fed is applicable in this situation. That is a criticism for a lack of subtly (of which WWE Is probably the best example). The criticism being leveled here by XIV, Thelone, and (to a lesser extent, as I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until Dynamite is over because the complaint is about storyline happenings not being shown on Dynamite) is one of lack of explanation in an easy to find place; that a casual fan who doesn't follow AEW's social media and doesn't go to wrestling news sites, will not have any explanation given to him/her/them for why Reba is not cleared now even though the idea at the PPV seemed to be that she was faking it (in fact, the announcers pointed it out on the PPV).

3. Yes, Cody's promise matters. The fact that we'd be able to understand the product by only watching Dynamite and the PPVs was used as a selling point. WWE asks FIVE HOURS A WEEK to keep up with their product... and that's a week without a PPV (which they've been doing 15 a year for so now with the Saudi shows and the Aussie stadium show, and whatever else they might have had planned along those lines), and that's not including 205 Live, NXT, and NXT UK,or any of the pointless shows like Main Event. It was definitely a barrier to entry.
AEW was asking a mere two hours a week, plus a few more hours once every two or three months. That's it. To include Dark brings it up to at least four, and then you have weeks where there is BTE and whatever else. It's approaching WWE-level, and that's not a place AEW should want to be.
You had mentioned in a different thread that it is reasonable to expect shows to change over time. My caveat to that is that the change needs to be announced. I'm not a mind reader. If in order to understand the storylines I need to watch the show that you told me I didn't have to watch, I won't know unless you tell me.

4. My further criticism that AEW Management appears to be being suckered by a ruse they already fell for once this week needs an answer because the promoters should not look like idiots, and even from a kayfabe point of view, that hurts the product (as has been seen recently in WWE, and many times over the years in TNA). And in this particular case, it was made extremely clear at the PPV that the injury is a fake, so management look like idiots falling for it again without some additional explanation of why they'd be willing to believe it (and if the answer to that is that the Jag's team doctor vouched for it, then we'll need an explanation for why he/she fell for it. Or it needs to be a kayfabe legit injury, which makes the idea to portray an identical fake injury on the PPV mind-boggling.

5. I do think that it needs to be acknowledged that from the artistic point of view of trying to tell a coherent story via the medium of professional wrestling, there was a lot of stuff in the Attitude Era that was really f*cking bad. Not everything was the Hunter/Steph/Angle love triangle.

6. I actually do speak up every time someone shows up on a show they're not supposed to be with no explanation. Said complaints are documented on this very website.

[Big Red Machine]

The story on Dynamite was that the doctor's note that got Rebel out of the match was "written on Britt's letterhead," so yes: in kayfabe, the people who run this company are morons.