BOTB: Stiff Punch

[yourcrapsweak]

Who gives the stiffest, most brutally insane punch to the face? Vader? Necro? Corporal Robinson? Other?

[Big Red Machine]

None of them are good. A stiff punch is BAD! The best punch is that of Dr. Death

[yourcrapsweak]

None of them are good. A stiff punch is BAD!

Why?

[cero2k]

why that would be one Mr William Regal

[Big Red Machine]

None of them are good. A stiff punch is BAD!

Why?

Because you're not supposed to hurt the other guy. It's pro wrestling, not boxing.

[KILLdozer]

None of them are good. A stiff punch is BAD!

Why?

Because you're not supposed to hurt the other guy. It's pro wrestling, not boxing.

exactly,,the idea is not being stiff

[yourcrapsweak]

Because you're not supposed to hurt the other guy. It's pro wrestling, not boxing.

Under this logic, you would also condemn say Quack and Green Ant for shooting on each other as they do every so often in their chain wrestling matches? They may not want to "hurt" the other but they want to forcefully subdue their opponent, which is the same idea as stiffing.

When Necro punches the lights out of some guy, it's for effect. Deathmatch fans especially know the difference between a stiff punch and a work, and when you're beating the other guy with light tubes and throwing them into pits of barbed wire and salt, why would you give them a fake punch? It doesn't make sense.

I know you don't like that stuff. But for the sake of argument, who would you say has the stiffest and most brutal punch? That's what this thread is about, not whether you like stiffing or not.

[Big Red Machine]

Because you're not supposed to hurt the other guy. It's pro wrestling, not boxing.

Under this logic, you would also condemn say Quack and Green Ant for shooting on each other as they do every so often in their chain wrestling matches? They may not want to "hurt" the other but they want to forcefully subdue their opponent, which is the same idea as stiffing.

Shooting and stiffing are different. If the plan for the match is "we'll just chain wrestle for a few minutes and wind up in hold X, or end it with a rope break, that is fine. For all intents and purposes, that is like calling it in the ring.

When Necro punches the lights out of some guy, it's for effect. Deathmatch fans especially know the difference between a stiff punch and a work, and when you're beating the other guy with light tubes and throwing them into pits of barbed wire and salt, why would you give them a fake punch? It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to hit guys with light tubes, and throw them in pits of salt, either!

I know you don't like that stuff. But for the sake of argument, who would you say has the stiffest and most brutal punch? That's what this thread is about, not whether you like stiffing or not.

I guess I'd have to go with Vader

[yourcrapsweak]

Are you against chops too? It's the SAME exact thing.

[Big Red Machine]

Are you against chops too? It's the SAME exact thing.

A chop doesn't cause as much damage. It is like a backdrop. And the other (and IMO, more important) difference is that it is very hard to do a chop and make it look real without the sound, and there is no way to reproduce the sound. Which a punch this isn't true. And before you ask, I fell similarly about stiff kicks.

[Rabid619]

A chop doesn't cause as much damage.

Try saying that AFTER Big Show chops you. :p

As for stiffest punches, Cero hit it on they money with Regal. I will give Vader a very honorable mention because i remember that match he had with Shamrock where Shamrock was stiffing him so Vader knocked his damn lights out.

[yourcrapsweak]

I'm surprised to see no love for Stan Hansen yet.

[Chris Everlast]

I'm surprised to see no love for Stan Hansen yet.

Wasn't he the one who had such poor eyesight so he had to stiff to make it look real?

[NWK]

La Parka decked a guy in the crowd. for trying to grab his mask one time. I think it's on a Botchamania somewhere.

[kirbs2002]

Nobody's mentioned Terry Funk, so I will. Just try and tell Mick Foley that the Funker's punches don't hurt. (In Foley's own words, "[Funk's] slaps hurt more than most men's punches, and his punches cause concussions.")