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Huge Seth Rollins/Roman Reigns angle rejected by Vince, Ryback on if he likes being a heel

Post by Big Red Machine » Nov 4th, '15, 09:24

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– During his appearance last week on The Steve Austin Show, Ryback said that he prefers working as a babyface because he enjoys putting smiles on children’s faces. However, being in a heel tag team with Curtis Axel was his favorite time in the professional wrestling industry.

“That was the most fun I had because I got to go out there and just do whatever I wanted.” Ryback continued, “when I finally switched [from babyface to heel], I felt like I could do no wrong. I felt like that’s when I could start letting my real personality come in and it was a process. And it took a good year and a half. Tagging with Curtis Axel [was] the most fun I ever had. Me and him, literally, every night would try to find a way to joke with each other.”

“The Big Guy” also talked about growing up in Las Vegas, playing high school football and baseball, his workout philosophy and strategy, why he doesn’t believe in “cheat days” when it comes to diet, what the self-help book The Secret did for his career, how Arnold Schwarzenegger motivated him back to the ring, and his Tough Enough experience. You can listen to the interview here. You’ll also hear about his relationship with Vince McMahon, why he prefers to travel solo, and how he continues to improve his own in-ring performance.

Ryback competed in a 5-on-5 Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match on Raw as Roman Reigns enlisted “The Big Guy,” Dean Ambrose and the returning Usos to battle WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins, WWE Tag Team Champions The New Day and Intercontinental Champion Kevin Owens. It ended via disqualification after Rollins swung a chair.

– The idea of a Rollins and Reigns doing a double turn — Rollins would turn babyface and Reigns would turn heel — was pitched to Vince McMahon by a WWE producer and quickly rejected. Fans shouldn’t expect any changes to be made to Reigns’ character in the near future since its something McMahon is extremely stubborn about. He is determined to make Reigns into a WWE Superstar that fans will accept.
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Re: Huge Seth Rollins/Roman Reigns angle rejected by Vince, Ryback on if he likes being a heel

Post by Big Red Machine » Nov 4th, '15, 09:31

Big Red Machine wrote:Source: WrestleChat
Fans shouldn’t expect any changes to be made to Reigns’ character in the near future since its something McMahon is extremely stubborn about. He is determined to make Reigns into a WWE Superstar that fans will accept.
Meanwhile, business continues to suffer because almost all of the TV for the past year has been based around Seth as the top heel and Roman as the top babyface. If Hunter wants his match with Rollins, then why not pull the trigger on this double turn. People are sick of the Seth Rollins & The Authority segments and they clearly don't want Roman as their top babyface right now, so kill two birds with one stone and do a damn double-turn. They always talk about how they want things to be based on reality... so what's more real than Roman Reigns as the McMahon Family's chosen world champion?
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Post by NWK2000 » Nov 4th, '15, 14:32

Why not have Sheamus cash in the MITB on Rollins and have the Authority endorse it? I'm sure Sheamus has had a run in with Rollins, but never a heavily publisized one. Then you could put The Shield together again considering all three members would be face.
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Re: Huge Seth Rollins/Roman Reigns angle rejected by Vince, Ryback on if he likes being a heel

Post by Serujuunin » Nov 4th, '15, 22:04

Big Red Machine wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:Source: WrestleChat
Fans shouldn’t expect any changes to be made to Reigns’ character in the near future since its something McMahon is extremely stubborn about. He is determined to make Reigns into a WWE Superstar that fans will accept.
Meanwhile, business continues to suffer because almost all of the TV for the past year has been based around Seth as the top heel and Roman as the top babyface. If Hunter wants his match with Rollins, then why not pull the trigger on this double turn. People are sick of the Seth Rollins & The Authority segments and they clearly don't want Roman as their top babyface right now, so kill two birds with one stone and do a damn double-turn. They always talk about how they want things to be based on reality... so what's more real than Roman Reigns as the McMahon Family's chosen world champion?
I honestly think (and have been thinking on it for months now), that to get really over, Roman should be a monster heel. Like a dominant, angry heel, rather than a cowardly Authority heel. I don't think that would fit him very well, and people do have a tendency to cheer for heels, rather than faces like they're "supposed to". Once he gets over, turn him.

Seth plays the heel so well in his current role, part of me doesn't want him to change it, while another part of me thinks he's way too talented to be cheating or weaseling his way out of matches. :P

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Post by Big Red Machine » Nov 4th, '15, 22:16

Serujuunin wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:Source: WrestleChat
Fans shouldn’t expect any changes to be made to Reigns’ character in the near future since its something McMahon is extremely stubborn about. He is determined to make Reigns into a WWE Superstar that fans will accept.
Meanwhile, business continues to suffer because almost all of the TV for the past year has been based around Seth as the top heel and Roman as the top babyface. If Hunter wants his match with Rollins, then why not pull the trigger on this double turn. People are sick of the Seth Rollins & The Authority segments and they clearly don't want Roman as their top babyface right now, so kill two birds with one stone and do a damn double-turn. They always talk about how they want things to be based on reality... so what's more real than Roman Reigns as the McMahon Family's chosen world champion?
I honestly think (and have been thinking on it for months now), that to get really over, Roman should be a monster heel. Like a dominant, angry heel, rather than a cowardly Authority heel. I don't think that would fit him very well, and people do have a tendency to cheer for heels, rather than faces like they're "supposed to". Once he gets over, turn him.
Right on all counts. He needs to be the "Face of WWE" heel like Randy Orton was, because that's what he is in real life and that's what everyone sees him as. Maybe only have others cheat for him rather than have Roman himself do any of the cheating, but not have him complain about the help, either.
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Re: Huge Seth Rollins/Roman Reigns angle rejected by Vince, Ryback on if he likes being a heel

Post by badnewzxl » Nov 5th, '15, 06:52

You guys hit it right on the head! All of WWEs super top guys got over thru being strong heels. Once they were so good at being heels, the fans absolutely loved them then they were immediately over as fan favs (watch what happens in a few months with Kevin Owens). Austin, the Rock, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Edge, and others did exactly this. The only guys who really didn't do that were Hogan and Batista; I don't count Rey and Jeff Hardy BC WWE pushed them against its own will.

Let Roman have a good, short heel run then turn him back face right before mania.
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Post by Serujuunin » Nov 5th, '15, 09:40

badnewzxl wrote:You guys hit it right on the head! All of WWEs super top guys got over thru being strong heels. Once they were so good at being heels, the fans absolutely loved them then they were immediately over as fan favs (watch what happens in a few months with Kevin Owens). Austin, the Rock, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Edge, and others did exactly this. The only guys who really didn't do that were Hogan and Batista; I don't count Rey and Jeff Hardy BC WWE pushed them against its own will.

Let Roman have a good, short heel run then turn him back face right before mania.
I don't think they pushed Rey and Jeff too much, I think it was the inevitable outcome of how popular they both were with kids (and women, in Jeff's case), and how much merchandise they sold and so on. It was smart of them to push those guys because the fans loved them. Now if only they would do the same with guys like Ambrose and Cesaro.

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Post by Big Red Machine » Nov 5th, '15, 14:01

badnewzxl wrote:You guys hit it right on the head! All of WWEs super top guys got over thru being strong heels. Once they were so good at being heels, the fans absolutely loved them then they were immediately over as fan favs (watch what happens in a few months with Kevin Owens). Austin, the Rock, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Edge, and others did exactly this. The only guys who really didn't do that were Hogan and Batista; I don't count Rey and Jeff Hardy BC WWE pushed them against its own will.

Let Roman have a good, short heel run then turn him back face right before mania.
I think batista also got over as a heel, although I think the thing that really pushed him over the top was the way his turn with Triple H was done rather than his work as a heel (and apparently Vince wanted to do the turn very quickly but Hunter and Dave fought with him tooth and nail to let them do a slow burn, which SOOOO much better than a one-and-done would have).

I think that from now until Mania is too short of a run as a heel for people to warm up to him.
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Re: Huge Seth Rollins/Roman Reigns angle rejected by Vince, Ryback on if he likes being a heel

Post by badnewzxl » Nov 6th, '15, 05:44

Big Red Machine wrote:
badnewzxl wrote:You guys hit it right on the head! All of WWEs super top guys got over thru being strong heels. Once they were so good at being heels, the fans absolutely loved them then they were immediately over as fan favs (watch what happens in a few months with Kevin Owens). Austin, the Rock, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Edge, and others did exactly this. The only guys who really didn't do that were Hogan and Batista; I don't count Rey and Jeff Hardy BC WWE pushed them against its own will.

Let Roman have a good, short heel run then turn him back face right before mania.
I think batista also got over as a heel, although I think the thing that really pushed him over the top was the way his turn with Triple H was done rather than his work as a heel (and apparently Vince wanted to do the turn very quickly but Hunter and Dave fought with him tooth and nail to let them do a slow burn, which SOOOO much better than a one-and-done would have).

I think that from now until Mania is too short of a run as a heel for people to warm up to him.
It could be enough time, but only BC he already gets some heat from some fans. That always helps.
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Post by badnewzxl » Nov 6th, '15, 05:46

Serujuunin wrote:
badnewzxl wrote:You guys hit it right on the head! All of WWEs super top guys got over thru being strong heels. Once they were so good at being heels, the fans absolutely loved them then they were immediately over as fan favs (watch what happens in a few months with Kevin Owens). Austin, the Rock, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Edge, and others did exactly this. The only guys who really didn't do that were Hogan and Batista; I don't count Rey and Jeff Hardy BC WWE pushed them against its own will.

Let Roman have a good, short heel run then turn him back face right before mania.
I don't think they pushed Rey and Jeff too much, I think it was the inevitable outcome of how popular they both were with kids (and women, in Jeff's case), and how much merchandise they sold and so on. It was smart of them to push those guys because the fans loved them. Now if only they would do the same with guys like Ambrose and Cesaro.
Ambrose and Cesaro are gonna have to get those reactions for a lot longer before the company realizes they should capitalize on it.
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Post by Big Red Machine » Nov 6th, '15, 08:11

badnewzxl wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:
badnewzxl wrote:You guys hit it right on the head! All of WWEs super top guys got over thru being strong heels. Once they were so good at being heels, the fans absolutely loved them then they were immediately over as fan favs (watch what happens in a few months with Kevin Owens). Austin, the Rock, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Edge, and others did exactly this. The only guys who really didn't do that were Hogan and Batista; I don't count Rey and Jeff Hardy BC WWE pushed them against its own will.

Let Roman have a good, short heel run then turn him back face right before mania.
I think batista also got over as a heel, although I think the thing that really pushed him over the top was the way his turn with Triple H was done rather than his work as a heel (and apparently Vince wanted to do the turn very quickly but Hunter and Dave fought with him tooth and nail to let them do a slow burn, which SOOOO much better than a one-and-done would have).

I think that from now until Mania is too short of a run as a heel for people to warm up to him.
It could be enough time, but only BC he already gets some heat from some fans. That always helps.
But if the end goal is to get him over as a babyface, and the way to do that is to turn him heel first (wow this business has become CRAZY), then I think he needs to be a heel for a while so people will get the hate out and start cheering him (and to have the Ambroses, Cesaros, and Zigglers, and others of the world carry him to great matches),
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