what would be the worst way for you to debut as a wrestler, or what do you consider to be the worst way to debut.

don't consider botched debuts like shockmaster

Jumping out of an egg in a giant bird suit.

cero2k wrote:don't consider botched debuts like shockmaster

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this isnt me personally but some ppl may say daniel bryan on nxt :p

kiel297 wrote:Jumping out of an egg in a giant bird suit.

When I saw this topic, I thought "how could the answer possibly be anything other than the Gooker. At least they were able to turn the Shockmaster into comedy.

KILLdozer wrote:this isnt me personally but some ppl may say daniel bryan on nxt :p

Why? He showed up his pro, then put on a strong showing against the World Champion.

Big Red Machine wrote:

kiel297 wrote:Jumping out of an egg in a giant bird suit.

When I saw this topic, I thought "how could the answer possibly be anything other than the Gooker. At least they were able to turn the Shockmaster into comedy.

This. The gooker is probably THE worst debut in the history of ever.

kiel297 wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote:When I saw this topic, I thought "how could the answer possibly be anything other than the Gooker. At least they were able to turn the Shockmaster into comedy.

This. The gooker is probably THE worst debut in the history of ever.

He was certainly the biggest let down along with a terrible debut.

Rabid619 wrote:
He was certainly the biggest let down along with a terrible debut.

you could be debuting as a male cheerleader

The Maestro. If you don't remember him then consider yourself lucky.

5Ray4Bacardi1 wrote:The Maestro. If you don't remember him then consider yourself lucky.

I loved his entrances! Isn't he the dude in WCW that was lowered from the rafters playing a grand piano?

Big Red Machine wrote:

KILLdozer wrote:this isnt me personally but some ppl may say daniel bryan on nxt :p

Why? He showed up his pro, then put on a strong showing against the World Champion.

I'm with Dozer on this. While the things you say are true statements, he was not treated as a "breakout" talent. Along with the constant burial from a not-quite-turned Michael Cole, let's not forget how he was "welcomed" by Jericho (who was pinned clean by Heath Slater later in the season), and the fact that he went winless (0 for 8 or 0 for 10 or something). This all would have worked out had they followed through with the original plan of Bryan winning the contest and challenging Miz for the US Title, but changing directions the way they did took a lot of heat from Bryan. I'm all for having some established workers on NXT, but Dragon and Kaval were two guys that would have been better introduced by being placed directly on a roster.

As for WOTW: The Gooker will forever go down as the worst debut in the history of Wrestling. Wrestlecrap.com, a site dedicated to awful wrestling angles, has a hall of fame of sorts where they induct one angle a year. They call this "The Gooker Award".

With that in mind, I'd like to at least mention the vignettes leading up to Steven Regal's WWF debut...
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Terry Taylor showing up in the WWF as The Red Rooster was pretty bad. Also a young Kevin Nash as Oz in WCW. What a horrible gimmick and character.

Bob-O wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote:

KILLdozer wrote:this isnt me personally but some ppl may say daniel bryan on nxt :p

Why? He showed up his pro, then put on a strong showing against the World Champion.

I'm with Dozer on this. While the things you say are true statements, he was not treated as a "breakout" talent. Along with the constant burial from a not-quite-turned Michael Cole, let's not forget how he was "welcomed" by Jericho (who was pinned clean by Heath Slater later in the season), and the fact that he went winless (0 for 8 or 0 for 10 or something). This all would have worked out had they followed through with the original plan of Bryan winning the contest and challenging Miz for the US Title, but changing directions the way they did took a lot of heat from Bryan. I'm all for having some established workers on NXT, but Dragon and Kaval were two guys that would have been better introduced by being placed directly on a roster.

Everyone forgets about the promo Dragon cut after he was eliminated. Dragon said something along the lines of:
"I lose every match to rookies, but take Batista and Chris Jericho to the limit?"- he did a great job insinuating that he lost to the rookies because he didn't care, and felt that the competition was beneath him. He ended it something along the lines of "a little less Daniel Bryan and a lot more Bryan Danielson." It seems fairly obvious to me that WWE had an entirely different direction planned for everyone in NXT, which they scrapped when they came up with the Nexus invasion (and I mean only the invasion and feud with WWE as an entity- there is no way that WWE had the entire feud with Cena planned out. Hell, I'd be surprised if WWE even knew what they were going to do THE NEXT WEEK when they did the Nexus invasion).

Big Red Machine wrote:Everyone forgets about the promo Dragon cut after he was eliminated. Dragon said something along the lines of:
"I lose every match to rookies, but take Batista and Chris Jericho to the limit?"- he did a great job insinuating that he lost to the rookies because he didn't care, and felt that the competition was beneath him. He ended it something along the lines of "a little less Daniel Bryan and a lot more Bryan Danielson." It seems fairly obvious to me that WWE had an entirely different direction planned for everyone in NXT, which they scrapped when they came up with the Nexus invasion (and I mean only the invasion and feud with WWE as an entity- there is no way that WWE had the entire feud with Cena planned out. Hell, I'd be surprised if WWE even knew what they were going to do THE NEXT WEEK when they did the Nexus invasion).

I think you're taking it a little too far; I wouldn't give WWE that much credit.

yourcrapsweak wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote:Everyone forgets about the promo Dragon cut after he was eliminated. Dragon said something along the lines of:
"I lose every match to rookies, but take Batista and Chris Jericho to the limit?"- he did a great job insinuating that he lost to the rookies because he didn't care, and felt that the competition was beneath him. He ended it something along the lines of "a little less Daniel Bryan and a lot more Bryan Danielson." It seems fairly obvious to me that WWE had an entirely different direction planned for everyone in NXT, which they scrapped when they came up with the Nexus invasion (and I mean only the invasion and feud with WWE as an entity- there is no way that WWE had the entire feud with Cena planned out. Hell, I'd be surprised if WWE even knew what they were going to do THE NEXT WEEK when they did the Nexus invasion).

I think you're taking it a little too far; I wouldn't give WWE that much credit.

If they didn't want him to say that, they wouldn't have continued his program with Cole. They would have released him right then and there.

cero2k wrote:don't consider botched debuts like shockmaster

is there any debuts worse than Shockmaster??? lol

ECWFlairfan wrote:

cero2k wrote:don't consider botched debuts like shockmaster

is there any debuts worse than Shockmaster??? lol

somethin about,,"he fell flat on his ass !" )

Debuting in a Video game!!!

Then burying not one, not two but THREE, talented wrestlers by making them play the stupid gimmick!!!!

Kaz, is back now, So is Daniels just need to see Kiyoshi back now

Doing an Expose....

Earth Child wrote:Doing an Expose....

That was a good segment. It established two characters at once.